D needs to get its shit together!

[Moritz Maxeiner via Digitalmars-d]

On Friday, 16 June 2017 at 03:53:18 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
>
> When a new user goes to start using D for the first time, D is 
> a PITA to get working! Don't believe me?!?!
>
> Just try getting D installed on all 3 major systems for DMD, 
> LDC, GDC, with an IDE, some utilities, possibly arm 
> support(even though it's new and expected to have some issues), 
> etc. The issues really start popping up when you are trying to 
> use x86 + x64. Library issues that result in strange error 
> messages instead of "This compiler is not compatible with the 
> phobos v2.4324".
>
> And guess what? This happens to regular users too! They either. 
> A) know how to fix them from fixing them in the past or helping 
> others(so it doesn't count because the problem still exists) or 
> B) have a specific setup that happens to avoid the major 
> issues(e.g., just use linux x86) then act like there isn't any 
> problems with D.
>
> But no one wants to work on the part of D that deals with these 
> problems cause it's boring and most "experts" can deal with the 
> problems in a few mins to a few hours... doesn't seem like a 
> huge waste of time(even though it is, since it's a waste).

I'm going to summarize this as "D has issues that aren't likely 
to be worked on any time soon by the core team".
It boils down the following (and I write this every time I see 
this gets posted): People working on (and with) D for free are 
already invested in things they are interested in. Your choices 
are
- Invest time to work on these yourself (-> directly leads to 
results)
- Pay someone to work on these (-> should directly lead to 
results unless you get swindled)
- Write about it here (-> raise awareness, may lead to results, 
but unlikely)
While I can understand your frustration (and share it for a 
couple of issues) and raising awareness for issues is a good 
thing, the third of these options is (historically speaking) 
unlikely to yield results by itself in this community as people's 
time is limited. If you want these issues dealt with, go with 
option one or two.

>
> D needs to just work! Library errors, setup problems, IDE 
> integration should just work! It seems the changes of it 
> working are about 75-85%... that IS LOW! It should be 99%. (And 
> I'm talking across the board)

Everything *I* need works well enough (and I'm fairly convinced 
it is the same for the majority of D users, though that is 
speculation). If you want something fixed, do it yourself or pay 
someone to do it.