My two cents on what D needs to be more successful...

[Ecstatic Coder via Digitalmars-d]

On Sunday, 21 May 2017 at 18:29:46 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Sunday, 21 May 2017 at 05:52:11 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
>> * the following *standard* libraries :
>
> Suppose I made a dmd distribution with my libraries 
> pre-packaged (I already have libraries for most the stuff you 
> listed)... would that work for you? Or must it come from the 
> dlang.org site and be `std.` for it to count?
>
> I have no interest whatsoever in being in the official standard 
> library though. Of course, using my libs is pretty trivial... 
> download one or two files and add them to your build command, 
> done.

I understand your point, but standard libraries come along with 
the compiler during its installation.

Let's suppose I want to use regular expressions and they would 
not have been not part of the std libraries.

I would have to evaluate several libraries from github, after 
having searches on forums whether some regular expression 
libraries are better or more successful, or better maintained 
than other, etc.

And I would be lucky to find a tutorial on this particular 
library.

Moreover I would have to download this library manually along 
with its dependencies, etc.

I know that's not that hard with dub-like tools, but this doesn't 
make things simpler, that's obvious.

Standard libraries exist for one good reason : they are the 
reference implementation that everybody use by default, unless 
they want something especially tailored to their specific needs.

So for newcomers like me, they make a HUGE difference, as they 
make my life simpler and easier.

All tutorials use them, whether they are on the official website 
or not.

Remember that I've programmed tens of years in C++, but just a 
few months of D.

So I don't know anything about how to make GUI, web sites etc 
with D.

That's new to me, and thus this gets me out of my "comfort" zone.

For instance a standard GUI library would have made my life much 
easier.

Just for the GUI, I've downloaded 7 libraries, and I've just 
evaluated gtkd at the moment.

Dlangui seems fine too, etc.

If D had a standard GUI library, and I didn't like its design, I 
could look for an alternative on github.

But at least my first GUI program already runs without having to 
evaluate anything, by simply reading the official tutorials and 
documentations.

For smarter people this wouldn't make a difference, but 
personally I need simplicity, especially when I have to decide to 
use a new language and learn its libraries to do what I can 
already do with my current language (C++ and Go in my case).

So I fully respect your opinion, and in my case, I would have 
appreciated to have a default GUI library, even if it's not 
perfect, and even if some better alternative could exist on 
github.

That's all I say :)