[OT] Windows dying

[Joakim]

On Monday, 30 October 2017 at 17:35:51 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
> On Monday, 30 October 2017 at 16:50:42 UTC, Joakim wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> No, it happens when they streamline and automate their entire 
>> workflow much more, to the point where they aren't using 
>> antiquated document systems anymore:
>>
>> http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/5/21/office-messaging-and-verbs
>>
>> I've never written a single document in the entire time I've 
>> contributed to the D open source project.  That's because we 
>> replace that ancient document workflow with forums, email, 
>> gitter, bugzilla, git, and github, some of which is also 
>> fairly old tech, but not nearly so as typing up a bunch of 
>> documents or spreadsheets.
>>
>> Of course, the D OSS project isn't a business, but the point 
>> is made in that linked post: most businesses are also about to 
>> transition away from that doc workflow altogether, where they 
>> simply replaced a bunch of printed documents and balance 
>> sheets with digital versions of the _same_ documents over the 
>> last couple decades.  It's time for them to make the true 
>> digital transition, or they will lose out to those who did and 
>> became more efficient for it.
>>
>> Lyft and Uber are merely two public examples of the leading 
>> edge of this wave.
>>
>
> You're making a broader point about Lyft and Uber that I agree 
> with. Automating certain things and providing a digital 
> platform has been very successful for them. But taxicab 
> companies switching from Excel to Google docs wouldn't have 
> solved anything for them. Taxicab companies in London and other 
> places have found better ways to adapt (excepting through 
> increased regulations) by offering their own apps to compete.
>
> Similarly, the investment management industry (my industry) has 
> seen a large increase in the share of passive management over 
> the past 10 years (and a corresponding decline in the share of 
> active management). Switching from Excel to Google docs is 
> irrelevant. There are broader competitive forces at work.
>
> Now, these competitive forces have been shaped by 
> computer-driven investing and a reduction in costs. So in this 
> sense, your broader point has validity, but perhaps the way you 
> were expressing it with regard to Office vs. Google Docs was 
> not convincing.

That's because I never made that Office/Docs comparison in the 
first place, I merely gave an example of someone plausibly 
replacing their current Windows/Excel workflow with Android/Docs 
in a decade.  The operative comparison there is mobile Android 
versus desktop/laptop Windows, Docs doesn't even matter as Excel 
also runs on mobile.

I was talking about the mobile shift being so big that it takes 
out a host of Windows PC-driven shops.  I also tangentially 
mentioned that I don't think people will be using Office _or_ 
Docs in a decade, which is the bigger shift you seemed to want to 
explore, so I expanded on it.

Lyft and Uber are particularly apposite because they've ridden 
both shifts to quick success.

>> Do those Python/Numpy users have the level of VS or other 
>> Windows IDE support that D currently doesn't?
>
> You don't need VS with Python/Numpy, but python has a large 
> number of IDEs available. I haven't used them, but they are 
> there. The only thing I ever used was Ipython notebooks, which 
> became Jupyter.

Never used Jupyter but I see that it's a webapp, so it should 
work fine on mobile, or as a frontend for a cloud instance.