How do you get comfortable with Dlang.org's Forum?
Biocyberman
biocyberman at gmail.com
Fri Feb 23 18:51:45 UTC 2018
Kagamin wrote:
> On Friday, 23 February 2018 at 13:47:16 UTC, biocyberman wrote:
>> From my experience with forum platforms like vBulletin, phpBB,
>> Invision Power, and even interfaces of Google group, and Github
>> Issues, I still find it very difficult to understand the logics of
>> using dlang's forum.
>
> You make it sound like "I even learned clay tablets" :)
Sorry that it kicked in that way. I didn't mean I know all from modern
to ancient if that is what you mean with 'learning clay tablets'. But I
did mean that even with quite some experience, I still find it
challenging to use the forum. I gave example of an typical forum
interface to a less typical one. dlang's forum is not anywhere on this
scale, in my opinion.
>
>> 1. No post editting. After clicking send, and found out that you made
>> mistakes in the post, but you can't edit the post anymore.
>
> Stackoverflow has this feature, and it's pretty popular on forums too,
> because when someone abuses editing, people complain that discussions
> make no sense anymore.
>
I mean to edit a post right after posting. stackoverflow and many other
forums have 5 minutes or more before they lock editing. Only comments on
stackoverflow are locked by the way.
>> 2. Old-day quoting presentation. I always feel reluctant to read texts
>> that stays after two levels of quotes, like this:
>> >First post quoted
>> >>Second post quoted
>> >>>Third post quoted
>> >>Second post quoted
>
> Stackoverflow and github have this feature. Though normally web
> interface hides the angle quotes, so they shouldn't interfere with reading.
>
I mean, the angle quotes are the problem.
>> 3. No Rich-text format support. No minimal bold/italic support.
>> Some tools to emphasize important points will make it easier to let
>> the readers know what the posters want to say.
>
> Bold and italic is a wrong way to format text because it's visual
> formatting that lacks semantic. You can use markdown to add *emphasis*,
> it's pretty intuitive, stackoverflow and github have it too. Emphasis
> only expresses emotions, which can actually distract from content, you
> better spend time expressing ideas.
>
I appreciate your preference on this. And I agree with out if it is some
sort of formal writing. In short and informal one, it is a way to give
visual cues.
>> 4. No code formatting. Same feeling here. I am reluctant to post more
>> than 5 lines of code.
>
> run.dlang.org
>
I will use this from now on.
>> 5. No image support. In many cases a screenshots will be helpful to
>> communicate problems.
>
> abload.de
I am aware of third party sites to upload image, but I meant a built-in
and in-place image display.
>
>> 6. Last but not least, a trendy feature: tags, keywords for threads so
>> we can locate related threads easily.
>
> Usually nobody bothers to fill them, so they won't give you any result.
>
I do fill them for every question post on stackoverflow. And I find them
very helpful.
>> If I may say it honestly, and despite the useful 'save unsent draft'
>> feature, the forum is by far the most user-unfriendly forum platform
>> ever (by appearance).
>
> If I were to order them by user-friendliness (in descending order):
> dfeed > forums >>> github > stackoverflow > skype
I think it has much to do with setting expectation right. Haven't used
dfeed, I had trouble understanding dlang's forum but much less trouble
with others.
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