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On Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 05:30:22 UTC, TheUncivilServant wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 04:57:20 UTC, SlimeBag wrote:
>>
>> surely the best form of professional etiquette is to NOT be 
>> offended by what others say.
>>
>> as soon as you ignore that etiquette, it's a slippery slope to 
>> utlimately controlling others.
>
> I agree.
>
> One can also argue, that for those who are intent on 
> practisiing 'etiquette', those who are not practicing 
> 'etiquette', become (initially) an irritant (to those intent on 
> practicing 'etiquette').
>
> Eventually, this cultivates into a 'hatred' (of those not 
> practicing 'etiquette').
>
> So, 'etiquette' actually leads to an uncivilised society.
>
> The 'victorian era' of Emily Post, was stife with 'etiquette', 
> and is why Freud had so many patients.

This is precisely why their are so many problems in the world. So 
many people believe that the way to achieve some imaginary ideal 
is to forcibly go that way and just through "banging ones head" 
enough it will magically materialize.

What happens, at least in the long run, in fact is that they do 
the exact opposite of what they were trying to achieve. You can 
point to any number of the major social issues and see that they 
have progressively worsened precisely because of the people 
supposedly trying to make things better have done this.

So society progressively gets worse in many areas and more and 
more people come out to "fix" things only to dig the hole deeper. 
Sometimes people just need to be told off, sometimes people need 
to be shot, some times people need bad thing to happen so that 
worse things don't. Humans can't control everything and trying 
only makes things worse. It's built in to the system. The 
Heisenberg uncertainty principle is built in to everything. It is 
applicable not just to atoms but things composed of atoms like 
love(which is a very complex system of atoms), gun rights, 
education, etc. It's bad enough that humans are pretty clueless 
about the true complexities of the universe but their ignorance 
in the very basic concept of balance is what really makes the 
world the way it is. Westerners tend to be extremely ignorant of 
balance for some reason.