The State of the GUI

[drug]

24.10.2018 16:00, Guillaume Piolat пишет:
> On Wednesday, 24 October 2018 at 12:43:52 UTC, drug wrote:
>> very interesting, I thought about it but without details like you
> 
> It's like solving climate change with ocean alcalinisation: it seems 
> doable, but will require unnatural degrees of _collaboration_. Hence why 
> it's difficult.
Unfortunately, I am totally agree. In fact collaboration will be really 
difficult.

> There is a host of reasons:
> 
> - Because every OpenGL driver is deeply broken. (i've been a 
> professional OpenGL developer for years)
> 
> - Because if you properly abstract 3D rendering you come to something 
> like bgfx, which is a multi man-years project in itself. Because bgfx is 
> not a simple API but the 2D APIs are. If bgfx had a shader compiler 
> embedded at runtime it will be a good solution, for now it's an offline 
> tool hence coupling is huge.
> 
> - OpenGL does not "work everywhere". It's deprecated on macOS. In 
> general portable APIs don't make any giant any money: the trend is 
> fragmentation hence why abstraction over specific APIs is a must: that's 
> where Unity was better than anyone else.
> 
So, nothing specific to OpenGL (it can be related to any other 
technology). But in general I am agree with again - renderer shouldn't 
be fixed. I recently started using `nuklear`, immediate gui c library. 
it's totally platform and renderer agnostic. We could use this way.