This thread on Hacker News terrifies me

[Ola Fosheim Grøstad]

On Sunday, 2 September 2018 at 04:59:49 UTC, Nick Sabalausky 
(Abscissa) wrote:
> A. People not caring enough about their own craft to actually 
> TRY to learn how to do it right.

Well, that is an issue. That many students enroll into 
programming courses, not because they take pride in writing good 
programs, but because they think that working with computers 
would somehow be an attractive career path.

Still, my impression is that students that write good programs 
also seem to be good at theory.

> B. HR people who know nothing about the domain they're hiring 
> for.

Well,  I think that goes beyond HR people. Also lead programmers 
in small businesses that either don't have an education or didn't 
do too well, will feel that someone that does know what they are 
doing is a threat to their position. Another issue is that 
management does not want to hire people who they think will get 
bored with their "boring" software projects... So they rather 
hire someone less apt that will not quit the job after 6 months...

So there are a lot of dysfunctional aspects at the very 
foundation of software development processes in many real world 
businesses.

I wouldn't expect anything great to come out of this... I also 
suspect that many managers don't truly understand that one good 
programmer can replace several bad ones...

> C. Overall societal reliance on schooling systems that:
>
>     - Know little about teaching and learning,
>
>     - Even less about software development,

Not sure what you mean by this. In many universities you can sign 
up for the courses you are interested in. It is really up to the 
student to figure out what their profile should be.

Anyway, since there are many methodologies, you will have to 
train your own team in your specific setup. With a well rounded 
education a good student should have the knowledge that will let 
them participate in discussions about how to structure the work.

So there is really no way for any university to teach you exactly 
what the process should be like.

This is no different from other fields.  Take a sawmill; there 
are many ways to structure the manufacturing process in a 
sawmill. Hopefully people with an education is able to grok the 
process and participate in discussions about how to improve it, 
but the specifics is dependent on the concrete sawmill production 
line.