extern(C++, ns) is wrong

[Jonathan M Davis]

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:30:25 AM MDT Walter Bright via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 9/4/2018 10:16 PM, Manu wrote:
> > I'm serious, you can have your cake, and potentially, I could have my
> > cake too, and everybody would be happy... nobody would be sad.
>
> If it is the same, I provided solutions in those threads. The incomplete
> example code did not make use of them.
>
> I don't know why you have "no option" left.

If I understand correctly, what it basically comes down to is that Manu
finds all of the workarounds that you've suggested to be so annoying as to
be intolerable. And after running into some of the same problems yet again,
he felt the need to complain about it again and beg you to change your mind,
since he feels that he has no idea how to convince you. I get the impression
that he thinks that his proposed solution is so obviously better that he
doesn't understand why you don't see that it's better, but I don't know.
Either way, I think that we all know that it can be very difficult to
convince you of something (though that's true of many of us around here). :)

>From what I understand of the situation, I'm inclined to agree with Manu's
position on this topic, but I thought that it was clear from the previous
discussion that if there were any chance of anything changing, we were going
to need a DIP. Based on everything that's been said thus far, I question
that that stands much chance of convincing you, but I do think that we need
a clear definition of the proposed solution so that we can avoid talking
passed each other, which seemed to be happening at least some of the time in
the recent thread. Either way, unless someone can come up with an example of
the problem or argument about it that somehow convinces you when the
previous examples and arguments didn't, I'm not sure that there's much point
in arguing about it without at least having a clear DIP on the topic.

- Jonathan M Davis