Feedback on Átila's Vision for D
Guillaume Piolat
first.last at gmail.com
Wed Oct 16 12:23:47 UTC 2019
On Wednesday, 16 October 2019 at 08:13:34 UTC, Chris wrote:
>
> Good point, and it has been made before by various people on
> the forum. Átilas vision sounds good and very ambitious. Then
> again, D also needs a clean up due to failed ambitions in the
> past, and D needs proper tooling (like in the Java world). So
> what you need are TWO teams: one that cleans up, improves and
> extends D, and one that builds the tooling and infrastructure.
> The latter will be more difficult to find, because from what
> I've seen on this forum it seems that most professional and
> hobby users don't care so much about the tools as they often
> have their own custom made build tools for D and they are much
> more interested in features and libraries.
>
> Does anyone have a plan how to get people on board who want to
> invest time and effort in a sound ecosystem? It seems that D
> hasn't reached the critical mass of users yet that enough
> people are frustrated and thus join efforts to make things
> easier (again cf. Java). How will you guys tackle that?
It's a bit too much irony for me. Your entire involvement with
this forum is to disparage D and drive people out (I've read
dozens of your posts). See the language you are using in this
very post:
- "failed ambitions in the past"
- "D also needs a clean up" < implying it's too dirty to save,
which is just funny as ProtoObject and copy-ctor makes is
cleaner, the clean-up is actually in progress,
- "It seems hasn't reached the critical mass of users" < it
"seems" but somehow it has to be asserted like truth? How do we
know that?
...this sort of ready-made sentences been going for years and of
course they have an effect on perception and you are doing it on
purpose, every day.
One idea to improve D marketing would be not to offer a tribune
for unsubstantiated criticism.
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