[OT] What are D's values?
SealabJaster
sealabjaster at gmail.com
Mon Oct 4 21:35:31 UTC 2021
On Monday, 4 October 2021 at 19:35:08 UTC, jfondren wrote:
> ...
Definitely a more fun way to look at things :)
However trying to get things like this across to people who don't
really use D would be tricky.
"Why choose D over Python for quick scripts?"
"Why choose D over C/C++ for low level code, also something
something GC"
"Why choose D over Go or Java or even Javascript for backend web
dev?"
Low level code in particular can be a bit annoying, since D
doesn't provide standard collections and lifetime containers for
a decent 'get stuff done' `@nogc` experience, but I've ranted
about that enough. This is mainly a major issue to me from a
library perspective, since libraries don't have a singular
interface to rally around.
I really wish I could use D everywhere, but I sometimes I just
feel more comfortable in say, C# for backend servers due to the
excellent Asp Core and EF Core. Standard configuration interface,
standard logging interface, standard dependency injection, which
all the other libraries I want will integrate with flawlessly(tm).
Since D can technically cover most major aspects of programming,
coming up with an answer of these "why" questions, especially
when performing comparisons to other languages, is pretty hard
due to the broad surface area to cover.
Also something something libraries >;3
I definitely do wonder what D would look like with an "insert
popular language" user base, from discussions, to ecosystem, and
certainly the pain points and pros that people find with the
language.
But "why" use D? "What" do we offer language wise, ecosystem
wise, etc.
I feel the "ecosystem" part is the larger part to focus on IMO.
We can boast all we want about great native performance; some of
the strongest metaprogramming available, all with an easy and
clean syntax. But if people can't just 'get things done' then the
friction of setting up/writing/creating a binding for the code
they need might be too much, so they leave for a different
language with everything they need all ready to go, all
integrated together, etc.
But enough rambling, I'm not even close to an expert on these
subjects >:D
Anyway, as an attempt to stay on topic, my values from that
selection are:
1. Performance
2. Interoperability
3. Robustness
4. Extensibility++++
5. Expressiveness
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