Just an example, why D rocks, and C++ s***s...
Ola Fosheim Grøstad
ola.fosheim.grostad at gmail.com
Mon Mar 21 15:23:21 UTC 2022
On Monday, 21 March 2022 at 13:36:47 UTC, Tejas wrote:
> They point out that feature superiority does not compensate for
> the ecosystem fragility
You cannot point to individual features (and especially not make
assumptions about a feature that was added in C++20) and claim
that it is somehow significant. You have to look at the whole
package and how the features play together for a specific use
case. Whether the eco system matters or not also depends on the
use case (in many C++ scenarios you don't build on many external
libraries, so that may or may not be significant, depends on the
context).
You might argue that string mixin is a superior feature. Although
that feature makes code much less maintainable (read the source
code for the D standard library and you'll see why), so whether
you classify that as an advantage or a way to aggregate debt and
increase costs over the project life-time depends on whether you
write larger programs that are maintained over a long period of
time or not.
In the real world language-specific features have little impact
on application development unless you use them to a large extent.
Does anyone have a list of usage scenarios for compile time
strings without string mixins that would motivate a programmer to
shift to another language to get it? I've never had the need for
it outside string mixins, so I would argue that how features play
together typically is more important than any individual feature.
Right now, D lacks basic things that C++ programmers would
expect, so if you want to sway them to switch over it is rather
pointless to point at things they rarely need, or that they can
implement in a few hours, or that is in the pipeline for
C++23/C++26.
You need to point to a plan for how D is going to address those
features they feel lacking.
Or, given the stagnation of D, it might be much better to stop
focusing on C++ and do something completely different from what
C++ does.
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