D has become unbearable and it needs to stop
Martyn
martyn.developer at googlemail.com
Thu Jun 15 11:17:21 UTC 2023
On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 08:05:18 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 6/8/2023 7:56 AM, GrimMaple wrote:
>> The truth is, I've been nagging about LTS branches, and I've
>> been nagging directly to Mike about it, and it went nowhere.
>
> It's not about not caring about it. It's just that I can't see
> how it would be effective. Making LTS versions balkanizes the
> language into multiple languages, which will play hell with 3rd
> party library maintenance.
>
> Clearly, the deprecation scheme is not serving our users well.
> We'll have to find a better way.
On Thursday, 15 June 2023 at 07:39:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> It's come up before many times, it's not like we haven't
> considered it.
>
> We actually do have it - we do major releases, and point
> releases.
> Into the point releases go regression fixes and critical bug
> fixes.
>
> The trouble, though, is we simply don't have the staff to do a
> whole
> lot with this.
I understand this could be division (or maybe also to say
repetition) to the core/language developers if we introduce LTS
in D. I mean, if there was a security vulnerability that was
fixed, it would need to be replicated on the active LTS releases,
etc.
However, I do not see why this would cause a division for 3rd
Party Libraries - as they *should* be targeting their releases
towards LTS, anyway.
I think enough content has been voiced about LTS and, generally,
appear to be on a similar wavelength by those in favour of it.
Certainly enough for it to be discussed in a near future meeting
with the core members.
I understand there might not be enough staff at this time and
other factors. I get it. I still believe this can spark more
discussion and, potentally, form a strategy on how **it could
work** if we had X, Y and Z.
If a plan is presented and is understood on what needs to be done
+ the work involved, maybe someone will step up and get involved.
Thanks.
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