On the panel discussion at Dconf day 3

[FeepingCreature]

On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 12:41:19 UTC, Ethan wrote:
> On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 19:33:50 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
>> Some of the responses to that were much like yours, calling it 
>> a cult, propaganda, etc. I tried to say a bit more about it in 
>> another post, and then discussed it in one of our BeerConf 
>> sessions, but I could only scratch the surface. I received 
>> several DMs and emails about it.
>
> I have zero investment in IVY/Ucora, and I was emcee at DConf. 
> So I'll say this to the crowd with the above as context:
>
> Have y'all never held a job in IT? Like, an actual 
> go-to-the-office job?
>
> I'm having a hard time imagining anyone that's ever had to sit 
> through SCRUM training for example calling what was on stage 
> during that Q&A cultish.

To be fair, I've held a job for several years now with, thank 
goodness, minimal exposure to consultants and any sort of social 
"system" training course. That sort of thing tends to vary widely 
depending, for instance, on the size of the company.

But also, lots of people who get into niche languages are uni 
students, and thank goodness we aren't far enough gone to have 
scrum training at uni yet.