Sharding Phobos an alternative to sharding druntime

[Paolo Invernizzi]

On Sunday, 23 June 2024 at 16:09:00 UTC, Richard (Rikki) Andrew 
Cattermole wrote:
>
> On 24/06/2024 3:59 AM, Paolo Invernizzi wrote:
>> On Saturday, 22 June 2024 at 10:28:10 UTC, Richard (Rikki) 
>> Andrew Cattermole wrote:
>>> On 22/06/2024 8:37 PM, Paolo Invernizzi wrote:
>>>> Independent ... but with dependency?
>>>> The impression is that everything in D-lanD is moving 
>>>> towards an over-eng complexity ...
>>>
>>> No no.
>>>
>>> Its literally just the event loop shard depends upon base 
>>> shard.
>>>
>>> Explicit dependencies, no accidental importing something that 
>>> you shouldn't be able to without clear stated intention.
>>>
>>> This is a key goal of PhobosV3 work, was to break the 
>>> interdependencies of modules.
>> 
>> I still think it's over-eng.
>> 
>> Indirect dependencies of module are direct dependencies of the 
>> imported module, that means that the opinion is that the 
>> imported module is using another module without a valid good 
>> reason. So, the only thing to do is "just" (well, "just" ...) 
>> improve the quality of imported module itself, cleaning it. 
>> Why is it necessary to have another abstraction, shard, in a 
>> already complicated language like D?
>
> What new language concept?
>
> Its purely build system, what files get passed to the compiler 
> and made available via ``-I``.
>
> Everything is in place except the build system (and enabling of 
> PAYG for linking).
>
> It is no different than a dub sub package and explicitly 
> setting the dependencies there.

Language intended as language as a whole, ecosystem included. I 
still don't grasp where's the improvement over the status quo of 
a monolithic Phobos and far west dub modules.

Phobos modules interdependencies should be reduced? It's a decade 
that this point is on the table, I was here when Andrei rants 
about Phobos quality were flying around.  Nothing new introduced 
into the "language as a whole" supersede the simple point that 
hard analysis work needs to be done on the code itself.

I still do not grasp the point.

/P