Mac initial experience
Peter Alexander
peter.alexander.au at gmail.com
Sat Jul 5 10:36:05 UTC 2025
I had to install D on a new Mac machine. The initial experience
is pretty poor right now. Tried searching, but didn't see any
other threads about this?
1. dlang.org directs you to download the DMD2.pkg - however,
MacOS will not allow you to open this: "Apple could not verify
'DMD2.pkg' is free of malware that may harm your Mac or
compromise your privacy." - you have to work around this by going
to system privacy settings and enabling it. Not a good first
impression though.
2. Once installed, dmd just insta-crashes:
$ dmd
zsh: segmentation fault dmd
This is due to a known (and fixed on nightly) issue with TLS
changes on the most recent Mac, but you'll only find out about
this if you go googling for the error.
3. Finally, since dmd doesn't support arm64 yet, unless you are
careful you are very likely to run into various linking issues
with e.g. libraries installed with arm64 with homebrew.
This is all a bit unfortunate, especially when we see e.g. the
recent thread on hackernews for folks excited about D. I'm sure
more than a handful of people decided to try out D after that
post, and probably we lost a bunch of them due to these issue.
In terms of solutions:
1. Looks like we just need to notarise the .pkg? Probably needs
the foundation to setup an Apple Developer account if it doesn't
already have one, then it should just be a matter of running some
Apple command-line tools as part of deployment.
2. Really, this should have been hot-fixed once the fix made it
to nightly. I understand a new compiler is coming soon, so maybe
this won't be a problem for long, but perhaps worth retrospecting
on how this managed to stay broken for so long (appears to be a
few months now that latest dmd crashes on latest Mac).
3. I think this has been discussed before, but perhaps we should
direct people to ldc2 for now as the main download? Or perhaps
just make it clear on the website that dmd is x86_64 only for now
and provide the alternatives on the homepage.
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