[dmd-internals] Planning software?

[Andrei Alexandrescu]

On 1/19/12 9:26 AM, Jesse Phillips wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu<andrei at erdani.com>  wrote:
>> We tried a wiki. It didn't work.
>>
>> Andrei
>
> The only Phobos Dev I've seen edit the Wiki consistently has been Don.

Walter, Bartosz and I tried using the wiki in the past. It was a 
complete failure.

> In this group lots have signed up to trillo, you have even started
> doing some task lists. Create an organization and publicize your list.
> You've given up because Walter is on board yet, but if the community
> actually starts to use it and coordinate, with it, Walter would be in
> the wrong to ignore that.

I honestly am giving up on this. I won't even look at other suggested 
products. There seems to be no shared vision of what kind of 
organization we need and even no consensus that we need better 
organization. To summarize my understanding:

1. Walter is (a) opposing trello, (b) not enthusiastic about changing 
much, (c) working kindly on particular examples discussed here (e.g. the 
oldest bugs).

2. Don is already organized in his approach to fixing bugs and doesn't 
think adding some project planning software would help.

3. Brad's opinion is that we're having a social issues that tools can't 
solve, and brings as evidence the fact that we don't use all features of 
our existing tools. Brad is not a strong participant in terms of code 
but is a key contributor of logistics and infrastructure.

4. Kenji is too gentleman to participate. I personally think his work is 
so awesome, if anything I'd be afraid the introduction of whatever tools 
to disrupt it in any way.

5. Leandro has the strong opinion that we don't need additional tools. 
He's not a massive participant to D but I mention this because he argues 
his point very passionately. I'm looking forward to equal passion in 
participation to D itself.

6. A few others thought they'd give it a whirl and joined trello. We 
have a project there with two items and a few tumbleweeds.

Given this state of affairs, it's very unlikely we're poised to operate 
a change of significant impact.


Andrei