[phobos] [dmd-internals] Planning software?

[Brad Roberts]

The number is irrelevant if the results aren't consulted.  What was the 
last time you looked at the stack ranking of votes?  What was the last 
time you used it when deciding on what issue(s) to address?

If you can't remember off the top of your head without having to think 
about it, I rest my case.

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:41:03 -0600
> From: Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei at erdani.com>
> To: Discuss the phobos library for D <phobos at puremagic.com>
> Cc: Brad Roberts <braddr at puremagic.com>
> Subject: Re: [phobos] [dmd-internals] Planning software?
> 
> I recall Don is very organized about watching and acting on the votes. My
> opinion is (as I mentioned a while ago) that the 5/person vote limit prevents
> good statistical effects from happening.
> 
> Andrei
> 
> On 1/17/12 12:39 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
> > Yeah, I argued against turning it on if we weren't going to use it.. and I
> > was fairly sure it would be ignored.  Heck, even severity is largely
> > ignored.
> > 
> > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Alex wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd just like to add to that, that the Bugzilla voting system should
> > > actually be paid attention to. It's largely ignored right now.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Alex
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Brad Roberts<braddr at puremagic.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 1/17/2012 7:19 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Walter and I were thinking of considering a sort of project planning
> > > > > software, i.e. one that tracks high-level tasks,
> > > > > goals, and milestones.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Currently we have bugzilla for issue tracking, which is good for bugs
> > > > > and small enhancement requests. Then we have
> > > > > github which is excellent for revision tracking and such.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What we currently lack is a sort of a higher level tool that helps us
> > > > > make plans together, order work items by urgency
> > > > > and importance, and share with the community what our goals and
> > > > > milestones are.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would you want to use such a tool, assuming of course it actually
> > > > > helps us? And, before I start asking around, do you
> > > > > know of such a tool?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Andrei
> > > > 
> > > > IMHO, we've got plenty of tools in our mix we just don't use them well.
> > > > 
> > > > Bugzilla already has several dimensions of scheduling, including
> > > > severity, priority, and milestones.  Additionally, it's
> > > > probably way overdue to apply more structure to the products/components.
> > > > I know it's something Don has advocated before.
> > > > 
> > > > Wiki is a good document collaboration tool.
> > > > 
> > > > The DLang website is a good communication tool, as are the
> > > > newsgroups/mailing lists.
> > > > 
> > > > Between bugzilla for fine grained categorization of
> > > > issues/enhancements/whatever and a page on the website to state high
> > > > level goals, I'm not sure what else we really need.
> > > > 
> > > > I absolutely agree that we need to have a better roadmap and to execute
> > > > on it, just not that another tool is needed or
> > > > useful.
> > > > 
> > > > My 2 cents,
> > > > Brad
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