[phobos] [dmd-internals] Planning software?

[Andrei Alexandrescu]

On 1/18/12 1:28 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
> (re-adding the list to keep the discussion public)
>
> On 1/18/2012 11:19 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 1/18/12 1:11 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
>>> Also of note, there's a number of major projects that do their
>>> entire planning within bugzilla.  A classic example is the
>>> Mozilla guys.. from which bugzilla was borne.  Another is GCC.
>>
>> This echoes my thoughts: it's clear people who are well versed in,
>> and committed to, bugzilla, can make it work for their planning.
>
> So, because I listed projects I was sure you'd be familiar with
> you're suggesting it requires expert quality people to use it?  Way
> to further preconceived notions.  Have you done any reading or
> research, or just ruled it out for some reason?

The reason I made that remark is because the mozilla guys are those
"from which bugzilla was borne". I have no trouble figuring they are 
fluent enough with bugzilla to use it for whatever they want.

>>> I'm not against use of tools (obviously, I've been _the_ person
>>> installing and building tools for us so far), should we find one
>>>  that's ideal.  But I also don't feel like prioritization,
>>> scheduling, and sticking to those are going to be solved by more
>>> tools.  They're social issues.
>>
>> They're social issues that can be helped by tools.
>
> Yes, they can.  If the people want to be helped.  Our consistency
> with even the simplest, fixing regression bugs, suggests we've got
> bigger issues than just tooling.

I think this is a false choice.

Anyway, I'm dropping the whole initiative.



Andrei