[phobos] [dmd-internals] Planning software?

Steve Schveighoffer schveiguy at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 19 15:54:04 PST 2012



Are we still going to use trello?  I set up a card for my current phobos activity.  Andrei noted that he's dropping it...

Just so I can voice my opinion, it has potential, and seeing as how Walter doesn't do much work on Phobos, do we need Walter's approval to use it for Phobos only?  If nothing else, I see it being a useful tool for managing the proposed improvements.  Every few weeks someone says "what's next for approval in phobos, anybody know?"  If there were a board to manage that, it would be useful.

-Steve



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> From: Steve Schveighoffer <schveiguy at yahoo.com>
>To: Discuss the phobos library for D <phobos at puremagic.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:50 AM
>Subject: Re: [phobos] [dmd-internals] Planning software?
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>https://trello.com/schveiguy
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>----- Original Message -----
>> From: Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei at erdani.com>
>> To: Discuss the phobos library for D <phobos at puremagic.com>
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [phobos] [dmd-internals] Planning software?
>> 
>> On 1/17/12 11:34 AM, Brad Roberts wrote:
>>>  IMHO, we've got plenty of tools in our mix we just don't use them 
>> well.
>>> 
>>>  Bugzilla already has several dimensions of scheduling, including severity, 
>> priority, and milestones.  Additionally, it's
>>>  probably way overdue to apply more structure to the products/components.  I 
>> know it's something Don has advocated before.
>>> 
>>>  Wiki is a good document collaboration tool.
>>> 
>>>  The DLang website is a good communication tool, as are the 
>> newsgroups/mailing lists.
>>> 
>>>  Between bugzilla for fine grained categorization of 
>> issues/enhancements/whatever and a page on the website to state high
>>>  level goals, I'm not sure what else we really need.
>>> 
>>>  I absolutely agree that we need to have a better roadmap and to execute on 
>> it, just not that another tool is needed or
>>>  useful.
>> 
>> I understand your concern (expanded in your other messages). Let's, however, 
>> not derail the discussion into a false choice. Yes, we do have tools we 
>> don't use. That doesn't mean we should stop looking at _other_ tools 
>> that may be more adequate tools for our needs.
>> 
>> So the proof that we don't use bugzilla votes or priorities does not prove 
>> e.g. trello.com would not be useful.
>> 
>> I think we have two good proposals. One is trello.com, the other is github's 
>> new tools. The github chain does not seem very mature, but integration and 
>> potential are definitely important.
>> 
>> Could you guys make trello.com accounts so we find each other there? Let's 
>> give it a whirl.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Andrei
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