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Jacob Carlborg doob at me.com
Wed Feb 15 23:53:30 PST 2012


On 2012-02-15 22:34, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Ludovic Silvestre"<ludovic.silvestre at gmail.com>  wrote in message
> news:lgmfvnqiiwxuctpgqsbq at dfeed.kimsufi.thecybershadow.net...
>>>
>>> In any case, this is one of the reasons I hate the modern web. On the
>>> user's side, content and view have become completely married together.
>>> That's a *huge* step backwards. Thanks to a very large effort put into
>>> standard file formats and general computer-to-computer interop, it used
>>> to be that any content could be viewed in any program, any UI, any style,
>>> any anything the *user* wanted. We had achieved a computing golden age!
>>> But once things moved to the web, that got completely thrown out the
>>> window as interface is now inseparably *bundled* with content once again
>>> (and vice versa - content comes inseparably bundled with the interface).
>>> While model-view separation is popular among webdevs, that separation
>>> exists completely on the developer's side, not the user's side. Of course
>>> in this particular case, it's not quite so bad because there's lots of
>>> different interfaces to the same NNTP server, but still...
>> Check out this: http://axr.vg/
>
> Interesting. At a glance, it sounds like it still doesn't address my rant
> above (though I don't see how it could). And I would have preferred to see
> XML abandoned and have a unified language for content and presentation (note
> that doesn't preclude separation of actual content and presentation - I'd
> just like to see them both use a single common langauge...and no XML).
>
> But other than that, it sounds very similar to what I've been wanting to do.
> Definitely worth a closer look.

It looks interesting. But I think it was a mistake to use JavaScript as 
one of the languages.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg


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