Surprise - New Post on the GtkD Coding Blog

[Adam D Ruppe]

On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 12:29:14 UTC, Dukc wrote:
> On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 18:52:13 UTC, Adam D Ruppe wrote:
>> (i loathe and despise wayland but ill try not to rant)
>
> Have you written more about this on your blog?

I have not (well.... not directly anyway, wayland flamewars is 
one of the things that directly inspired this post: 
http://dpldocs.info/this-week-in-d/Blog.Posted_2021_03_08.html#adam's-rant ).

The short version is the wayland devs were hyperfocused on one 
use case and missed the big picture. This led them to wrongly 
believe that the majority of X is completely useless legacy 
bloat, so instead of patching up the one use case, they threw it 
all out.

...then they have spent 13 years slowly reinventing it doing 
extension after extension and revision after revision after 
revision, and still haven't actually even reliably fixed the one 
issue they complained about... while X actually did patch it up 
if you opt into it (via the dri2 and sync extensions) and it does 
a pretty good job. They also bring up spurious security 
complaints - which have been around since the 90's btw but never 
materialized into a real problem - which are also patched via X 
extensions or nested servers. It could certainly be better but a 
version 1.1 or 2.0 of the security extension could realistically 
fix that up, no need to throw everything out. (Notice how 
Microsoft made similar changes in Windows without a significant 
breakage of backward and interoperation compatibility.)

So they broke everything for no benefit. Again. It is just like 
the broken audio stuff.

And then it really annoys me that the wayland proponents are 
rarely well educated on X, saying things that are just untrue. So 
that ups the flamewars to 11.