Where the schedule of D development?
Antonio
antonio at abrevia.net
Fri Apr 28 06:36:15 PDT 2006
Lynn Allan escribió:
>> Just... follow the Mono's road map...
> http://www.mono-project.com/Mono_Project_Roadmap
>
> Hmmmmm ... their Feb, 2006 webpage mentions .Net framework 1.1 being
> the latest ... that isn't a confidence builder.
>
> OS/2 tried (and failed) to keep up with with Win 3.1x compatibility
> ... while Win9x and WinNt "cleaned its clock."
We don't ned the c# framework or a replication of the library... we need
to propouse a "common path"...
>
> Some observations:
> * The battle for the desktop has been over since the DotCom bust. Look
> at RedHat's long term stock chart. Windows is "out in front ... and
> pulling
> away" (on the desktop). I write this as a developer with a crushed
> os/2 career still relatively fresh in my mind, so please don't
> consider me a Redmond toady.
>
> * A prediction: Steven J. will grow tired of computer outflows
> draining iPod inflows. Who needs another Board of Directors mutiny?
> Does portability matter?
>
> * Very few people have made any money betting against Bill Gates. (The
> W.B. being perhaps a notable exception, although that is probably a
> long story <g>)
>
> A Modest Proposal:
> I speculate that one or more of the Very Bright People who participate
> on this list (certainly not including me) would happily work for
> Digital Mars for significantly less than their current hourly rate.
>
> I further suspect there are Bright wannabe people on this list who
> would work for Digital Mars for $1.00 per hour. With the right smokin'
> material, I would even further speculate that "passing the hat" to pay
> those people might be semi-viable.
>
> D is certainly not a committee effort (A Good Thing), but my
> impression is that it is mature enough that an obligarchy would be
> appropriate rather than the current monarchy. I doubt even Nicolas
> Wirth could invent his third language today, and get all the libraries
> to be competitive in a reasonable time-frame ...
>
> (much less the nearly all-important gui debugger. Who besides Bright
> people can get productive with a complicated language without a world
> class debugger? Certainly not this plodder ... who is less than the
> Bright-est bulb in the box)
>
> An uninformed opinion: Boost is "out in front" Is it "pulling away?"
> Is the window of opportunity half open or half closed?
>
The window is really half open:
I think than development market has a gap not really covered by any
other languaje:
* A lot of peopple need's to work with a primary languaje (without
virtual machine)... C & C++ (Pascal?) are the key: When you need to
work in a very low level and not really big project... C is the best
one. If you need a best structured possibility: C++ is a good option
(with a hard learn curve... you need only a good project director, very
clean development rules and a good quality verification fase for each
development fase). When you need a fast structured hight level
development... then Java/C# is a good option (You need the same C++
project development rules, but you have a good isolation/independent
facilities and a good learn curve)
* D is just between C++ & Java/C#: Not Virtual machine, hight
abstraction level, good learn curve and, here you are the key, D flavour
and Name: a C# alternative focused as a C++/C evolution.
D only needs a good infraestructure to cover the gap:
Best library support.
A complete debugger (future ide is optional)
Documentation.
Your proposal is clean and acceptable: a "proto" company with a good
team producing a core profesional product. Money could be provided by us
(the community) and the objective could be provided by the own company.
My propossal:
1.- Create the core team with the best ones.
2.- The team has to prepare the future D roadmap.
3.- With the roadmap, people can decide if D future covers their needs
or if D must be abandoned.
4.- Let's go with the company.
The market oportunity is waiting for "D"...
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