D vs. C#

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Antonio,

Even at Microsoft, I would hazard the guess that different people 
implemented the .NET Framework classes than actually developed the CLR, 
or even VB.NET, C#, J#, etc.  Each probably even had its own project 
manager, but that's really a guess.

Microsoft has the resources to put into this, but D doesn't have it all 
yet.  If you are comparing infrastructures, D will not win against C#. 
It is true that it is not ready for that fight yet.

That said, comparing it to C/C++ is a much easier win for much the same 
reasons.

Some programmers do not need the full class library written for them, 
though.  If I need to parse xml, I'll either use a C library or write my 
own (which I have done.)  You're very correct that D is not a RAD 
language, and I don't think it's intended to be one.

Over time, different class or library frameworks will emerge for D, and 
one will become popular.  Since this has not yet happened, most people 
are not interested in the obvious comparison you've made - rather, in 
the comparison for the future.

To say that my pile of $1,000,000 in cash is better than your $600,000 
in investment - right now - is easy.  But it's much more interesting to 
know if the investment will be worth more in ten years or not.  I think 
that is the question being asked.

Just my opinion.

Also, I disagree with your comments on C#; I don't believe it was 
designed as the way to access the framework.  In fact, I think .NET 
smells much stronger of Visual Basic .NET than of C#.  But that's really 
an opinion.

Further, C#'s syntax and features are actually represented in a standard 
which would theoretically be framework agnostic, much like JavaScript. 
AFAIK.

-[Unknown]


> My conclusion:
> 
> D is not "productivity" oriented (Walter and D people wants to have the 
> best multipurpose "full-possibilities" compiler) and C# is only the .Net 
> platform productive language:  You can't compare them, because they are 
> not the same  (you can compare D, C and C++, you can compare C# and 
> Java... but you CAN'T compare D with C# or Java... ).
> 
> My error:
> 
> I lived in a mistake the last 3 years:  I spected D people to 
> work/produce a complete platform (because the fashioned way:  .Net, 
> Mono, wxWindows, PHP,...).
> 
> My error was a simple confusion:  D is a language, not a platform.
> 
> D community never will implement this "platform/framework" because they 
> are interested in a practical exploration of possibilities not really in 
> a serious productive alternative... this is work for other people... D 
> is only the tool.
> 
> See you
> Antonio