Totally OT: Quantum Mechanics proof for the existence of a Supreme Conciousness?

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"Craig Black" <cblack at ara.com> wrote in message 
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> "boyd" <gaboonviper at gmx.net> wrote in message 
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>> It seems to me that quantum physics is just an admittance that we don't 
>> really know what the heck is going on. It's not science, it's philosophy. 
>> And the thing about the mind sounds a lot like the main principle of the 
>> philosopher Descartes: 'there's only one thing that I can be sure about: 
>> I think, therefore I exist'
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>> This isn't proof of the existence of anything. In fact, it's more a 
>> theory that nothing can truly be proven. Any proof is based on what we 
>> can observe, but we can't be sure that anything we observe actually is.
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>> Greetz,
>> Boyd.
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> You may be right ...but there's no harm in trying then is there?
>
> BTW, since posting this I have discovered that this topic (both pros and 
> cons) is discussed on Wikepedia.  It basically states that this is one 
> interpretation of quantum mechanics, whereas in the link I provided it is 
> communicated as a conclusion.  There are other ideas that attempt to 
> resolve the strangeness of quantum mechanics with the determinism of the 
> macroscopic world.  This particular interpretation is not without 
> problems, but it does have the interesting quality that it concurs with 
> some religious world views.

You might find this interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind

I actualy strugled my way through the book Shadows of The Mind, mentioned in 
the page, and tbh i can remember very little from it. It was mostly way over 
my head at the time, and no doubt still is.

That said I did find the idea quite engaging.

But I also remind myself that the science of conciousness / mind / brain is 
still very young. We are still poking the brain with electrodes, or at best 
replaying recorded electical signals to it. It's still a naive poke it and 
see what happens kind of science as far as I can see.

You just have to look at our utter ineptitude at treating mental disorders 
to see how little we understand it.

So i think anyone who claims we know more than a little about what 
conciousness is and how it comes about is seriously mistaken.

It also reminds me of how in the late 19th centuary scientists were starting 
to think there wasnt much left to discover. Newton had sorted physics out, 
the earth was mostly mapped. All the interesting stuff had been done.

Then we got relativity, then quantum mechanics, and physics has got weirder 
and ever more complicated ever since.

I suspect we are in for that kind of ride with conciousness & mind.