Totally OT: Quantum Mechanics proof for the existence of a Supreme Conciousness?

boyd gaboonviper at gmx.net
Thu Feb 14 16:47:59 PST 2008


On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:06:52 +0100, Bill Baxter  
<dnewsgroup at billbaxter.com> wrote:

> Jb wrote:
>> "Yigal Chripun" <yigal100 at gmail.com> wrote in message  
>> news:fp2gtu$qcp$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>> Jb wrote:
>>>> "Craig Black" <cblack at ara.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fp2cu3$hcc$1 at digitalmars.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Yep.  That's generally a good approach to science.  However,  
>>>>> considering
>>>>> how much ground has been covered by science in recent times, I have  
>>>>> the
>>>>> hope that ultimately science will be able to answer philosophical
>>>>> questions too. Being a curious person, it would be nice to have a
>>>>> definitive answer to the big questions.
>>>>>
>>>> As soon as science provides an answer it stops being a philosophical
>>>> question. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> But tbh, you just have to accept that some stuff is and always will be
>>>> beyond our understanding.
>>>>
>>>> Is the universe infinate or finite?
>>>>
>>>> Either answer is utterly perplexing and uncomprehendable. Anyone who  
>>>> claims
>>>> otherwise doesnt understand the question.
>>>>
>>>> Why does anything exist at all? Why is there not just nothing?
>>>>
>>>> Again what possible answer could there be that makes any sense to a  
>>>> human?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> well, actually the universe is finite. there is a lot of evidence that
>>> our universe is expanding (big bang and all) and thus it must be finite
>>> (according to math).
>>  Why cant somthing infinite expand?
>
> "Ours goes up to infinity plus one.  It's one louder." - Nigel Tufnel
>
> But you're right I don't think theres any pure math that says "infinite"  
> implies "cannot expand" -- consider the mapping of the real numbers to  
> the real numbers:
>     x <- 2*x
>
> Infinite? Yes.
> Expanding? Yes.
>
> So probably the OP left out a few details.  :-)
>
> --bb
>

Actually infinite means exactly that it can't expand. That's the whole  
point of infinity. It's not a number, not a real one anyway, because a  
real number is always smaller than infinite.

x <- 2*x

is only expanding if the mapping takes time. And if it takes time, it'll  
never be infinite because at any point in time x will be an actual number.  
A very large number perhaps, but not infinite.



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