D learning curve

[janderson]

Charles Hixson wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:18:00 +0200, Lutger wrote:
> 
>> Sascha Katzner wrote:
>>
>>> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>>>> ..You could look at the library code and projects at dsource that is 
> being
>> written. Most projects and almost every big project uses Tango. That is
>> maybe even more important than the number of users.
> 
> Which is[was?] a real problem as, for me at least, tango keeps breaking 
> with each new release of D.  And I didn't find DSSS to be all that 
> workable either.  DMD works fine, and so does Phobos.  Tango was unending 
> problems.  And I frequently switch to DMD2 for a new release (and 
> sometimes switch back to DMD), so Tango isn't even consistently an option.
> 
> Perhaps some of the problems of which I'm complaining have been fixed.  I 
> last checked over 6 months ago.  But I'm not real inspired to try it out 
> again, either.  If I wanted to spend all my time fighting with my 
> computer I'd install Gentoo.
> 
> The upshot is that if a project requires Tango, I generally assume that 
> if I try to use it I'll end up spending all my time in compilation and 
> configuration, and figuring out why what I tried didn't work.  I don't 
> know what configurations the Tango people expect a system to have, but 
> mine doesn't have them.  Once I tried setting up a special user who only 
> executed DMD1.x (forget which version) with Tango.  After 3-4 days I gave 
> that up as a bad job.  I didn't even know why it wasn't working.
> 
> OTOH, I've got to admit that many people seem to really like Tango.  And 
> I have no clue as to what the differences between our systems are.  
> (Though there's probably typically so many differences that even that 
> wouldn't help much.)

What I do is pick a version of the compiler that works and stick with 
that.  As long as you don't need newer versions of tango or other apis 
that works fine for mw.  I sometimes try out updates however if they 
fail, or are too tricky to fix, I rollback.

-Joel