I am dying and **** hate it

John Reimer terminal.node at gmail.com
Sun Nov 16 13:28:15 PST 2008


Hello Gregor,

> Marcin Kuszczak wrote:
> 
>> Tony wrote:
>> 
>>> I am afraid
>>> 
>> Well, I am not sure what you mean with your posts. Are you so
>> frustrated with this news group ;-)
>> 
>> In case if it's more serious...
>> 
>> Few weeks ago I lost my quite a close friend. He was only 37, had a
>> great family with 5-years old son. And his life ended unexpectedly.
>> No one had even thought that it might happen, but one day he started
>> to complain about pain in ears. The same day afternoon he died from
>> stroke. Me and my other friends from church were shocked by this
>> death.
>> 
>> We are living our lives day by day, achieving goals, fighting,
>> working, thinking, weeping and it seems to us that it is our mission,
>> so we have to do make it in such a way... But is it really all what
>> can we expect? And who promised us that we will have another day to
>> discover why we are here. It's good to remember that everyone here on
>> this newsgroup will die someday, although we prefer not to think too
>> much about it.
>> 
>> I know where my friend is currently. He did good decision someday in
>> his life.
>> 
>> Just in case you would like to get into it more:
>> 
>> please visit my website: http://www.zapytajmnie.com
>> 
>> I consider the part titled "Christian?" as the most important. You
>> might want to read it. In case you have more questions just drop me
>> an e-mail (removing please_no_spam from address).
>> 
> Ah yes, another example of the always-popular "kick 'em while they're
> down" method of religious conversion.
> 
> (As if the original post was anything but spam)
> 
> - Gregor Richards
> 


Yes, it is most likely a spam post, but  you don't know that for sure, do 
you?

I'm sorry?  "Kicking 'em while they're down" ?  You must have been exposed 
to some harsh tactics such that you presume some fairly nefarious motives.... 
motives which you are unable to determine for yourself; nor does your biased 
position allow you to acertain clearly.  It looked very much like empathy 
to me, something you appear to lack.  Shall I postulate on your motives as 
well, Gregor?

You, of course, are entitled to your opinion.  But, if this were, for some 
"inconceivable reason", a cry for help (in a public forum, no less), you 
yourself could not have shown better that you "could care less".

We, unfortunately, have a difficult task.  If we don't say anything... we 
apparently don't care.  If we do say something... we must have evil  motives.

The best you accomplish Gregor in saying this is continuing the fear-mongering 
of what you perceive all "religious" behavior constitutes.  If you are worried 
about religious control tactics, I would pay careful attention to the tactics 
you yourself use to belittle, deride and embarass others.  It all comes from 
the same source... a determination to force people to think the way you think 
they should think.  I believe Marcin was attempting to offer a person the 
opportunity to seek of their own freewill outside this list.  There was no 
force or control in it at all, just a desire to encourage.

Perhaps I made a mistake in writing this publicly, and in the future should 
take this off list.  If this is the case, I encourage people to respond telling 
me to do so.  I apologize if this was considered an offensive post.

Later,

-JJR





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