OT: on IDEs and code writing on steroids
none at anon.com
Sun May 17 19:51:19 PDT 2009
> BCS Wrote:
>> Has anyone ever tried building a c# project without an IDE?
>> I don't even know if it can be done.
> It is actually very easy to do:
Um, Step 1. OK. Step2. OK. Step 3. Yup, no longer practical. If that's what
it take, you have just proven my point to my satisfaction. D can be built
with no non-code files C# can't. I'll tolerate something like make but nothing
like that .proj file.
>> Yes you can trigger a build from the command line, but setting up a
>> project without it would require hand editing of XML (yuck) and the
>> build tool IS visual studio.
> It is true that Visual Studio creates XML project/solution files and
> the contents of these files is overly complex.
> But these XML files are Visual Studio specific and a lot of their
> complexity comes from the fact that they contain extra information
> that is only needed by the IDE.
> If you use the MsBuild approach the amount of XML that is needed to
> create a project/solution is much smaller and in general the XML is
> fairly trivial.
Smaller than huge and fairly trivial in comparison to what? The only people
who are going to do this (c# w/o someones IDE) are 1) people forced both
to use c# and to not use an IDE or 2) the same kind of people who run OSX
on an Xbox ( :-O Oh my, someone actually did that, I didn't known: http://www.forevergeek.com/2005/06/os_x_for_the_xbox/
) because they like thumbing their nose at the big guys.
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