OT: on IDEs and code writing on steroids

[Jacob Carlborg]

Daniel Keep wrote:
> 
> BCS wrote:
>> Hello Brad,
>>
>>> My other problem with IDE's, such as eclipse, is that it's such an all
>>> or nothing investment.  You can't really just use part of it.  You
>>> must buy in to it's editor, it's interface with your SCM, it's
>>> scriptures of indentation style, etc.  Trying to deviate from any of
>>> it is such a large pain that it's just not worth it -- more so as the
>>> team working on a project gets larger.
>> For VS, you might have a point. However for D, I use Descent and I
>> haven't found any of those to be a problem. Getting people to agree on
>> how to set it up I expect would be a bigger problem.
> 
> Actually, Descent isn't perfect, either.  For example, it mandates that
> cases in a switch MUST be aligned with the braces.  What's more fun is
> that you can't override it until AFTER it's corrected YOU.

Just file a ticket.

> Oh, and how it indents multiline function calls is completely retarded.
> 
> And every time I try to autocomplete a templated function call, it
> insists on inserting ALL of the template arguments, even when they're
> supposed to be derived.

That's been fixed now: 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent/changeset/1344

> Don't get me wrong, I quite like Descent.  But as soon as you try to
> make a program "smart", you're going to start getting it wrong.
> 
> </rant>
> 
>   -- Daniel