D library projects

Robert Jacques sandford at jhu.edu
Thu Nov 12 17:11:39 PST 2009


On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:39:31 -0500, dsimcha <dsimcha at yahoo.com> wrote:

> == Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy at yahoo.com)'s article
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:27 -0500, dsimcha <dsimcha at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > == Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy at yahoo.com)'s article
>> >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:40:10 -0500, Walter Bright
>> >> <newshound1 at digitalmars.com> wrote:
>> >> > grauzone wrote:
>> >> >> Ever heard of Tango?
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, and I'd be happy to:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. have Tango available for D2 and work with Druntime.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. move individual packages from Tango to Phobos. This would  
>> require
>> >> > permission from the author(s) of those packages, as they'd need to  
>> be
>> >> > relicensed. (Tango uses the BSD license which seems to require  
>> notice
>> >> on
>> >> > all binaries compiled with it, this is unacceptable for Phobos.) So
>> >> far,
>> >> > only Sean and Don have been willing to do this.
>> >> Tango is dual-licensed.  The other license it uses (the Academic Free
>> >> License 3.0) allows binary distribution without attribution.
>> >> See http://www.dsource.org/projects/tango/wiki/License
>> >> -Steve
>> >
>> > Is there a plain English explanation of the Academic Free License
>> > anywhere?  I
>> > read this somewhere on the Tango website before, but I wasn't sure how
>> > significant
>> > it was, since the Academic Free License is dense, long legalese w/o  
>> any
>> > plain
>> > English explanations.
>> Agreed, it was in fact my mis-interpretation of the AFL that caused  
>> Tango
>> to put the second note on the above referenced license page ;)  See
>>
> http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?art_group=digitalmars.D&article_id=82496
>> > It would be truly great if Tango could be used under a license with
>> > permissiveness
>> > equivalent to the Boost license.  It would help mend a pretty
>> > significant rift in
>> > the D community that started over a minor technicality.
>> I wouldn't waste any time trying to get Tango to change their license.
>> Aside from being an almost insurmountable task to get all the developers
>> to agree to do it, since the AFL allows permissions that are exactly in
>> line with what the Tango devs want, I don't think they have any reason  
>> to
>> change it.
>> -Steve
>
> Well this is great news.  I read over the AFL text and it seems to  
> basically be
> just be a more wordy, harder to parse equivalent to the Boost license.   
> So the AFL
> is not the Boost license, but it is equivalently permissive.  In other  
> words they
> are (I think) compatible.
>
> For the convenience of the forum readers, here's the attribution rights  
> block:
>
> 6. Attribution Rights. You must retain, in the Source Code of any  
> Derivative Works
> that You create, all copyright, patent, or trademark notices from the  
> Source Code
> of the Original Work, as well as any notices of licensing and any  
> descriptive text
> identified therein as an "Attribution Notice." You must cause the Source  
> Code for
> any Derivative Works that You create to carry a prominent Attribution  
> Notice
> reasonably calculated to inform recipients that You have modified the  
> Original Work.

The AFL does have attribution issues due to clause 1c), which puts rather  
restrictive conditions on the license the binary copy is distributed  
under. 1C is also what causes it to be incompatible with other licenses,  
such as the GPL. Also, the AFL requires (clause 3) every program contain a  
copy of the AFL licensed source code.



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