[OT] Re: Can D be cute? (Qt)

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Nick Sabalausky wrote:

> "Michel Fortin" <michel.fortin at michelf.com> wrote in message
> news:hs4s7g$1tc4$1 at digitalmars.com...
>> On 2010-05-08 18:34:02 -0400, retard <re at tard.com.invalid> said:
>>
>>> Sat, 08 May 2010 18:22:37 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that I find really surprising. On Windows, Chrome is one of the
>>>> biggest offenders of "To hell with native look & feel!" that I've ever
>>>> seen.
>>>
>>> Chrome, on the other hand, has consistent look & feel across all
>>> platforms. I guess the style comes from their own google web os system.
>>> It doesn't look bad in my opinion, e.g. compared to Java and Swing.
>>
>> I was mostly talking about the non-browser-window elements, such as the
>> preferences and the about box or any other windows. I specifically ignored
>> the browser window because I understand they include a lot of custom
>> controls which doesn't necessarily represent Qt or Cocoa fairly.
>>
> 
> Ahh, I was including the browser window. Regarding the dialog/preference
> windows:
> 
> The dialog *body* has a very native look & feel, and I think it probably
> uses the native controls.
> 
> The title/frame/border looks identical to non-accelerated Aero...but I'm on
> XP. One hell of a blatant gaffe. (And even if I were on Win7, I would
> definitely set the system to the "Classic" non-aero style anyway. There's a
> number of things I like better about it, aesthetics just being one reason).

you can right-click and select 'Use system title bar and borders'. Or are you 
referring to the looks only?  
I disagree about Chrome being badly designed though, the nice thing about 
Chrome tabs is that you can easily drag one loose, rearrange or merge 
existing windows. This way they also take much less precious vertical space. 
Chrome is not as cluttered as the other browsers are, it just gets out of 
your way and lets you browse the web. 

Anyway, 'native look and feel' is a joke on windows. The classical style is 
history now and windows forms will probably be obsoleted by WPF soon. The big 
MS apps like Word, msn, windows media player, visual studio 2010: they all 
have very different styles from each other and previous versions of 
themselves.  
 
>>
>> I wonder, what is wrong with Chrome on Windows? I mean, what is wrong that
>> is not by design but because of laziness or incompleteness?
>>
> 
> The above. Other than that, most of my [long, long, long list of] issues
> with Chrome are by-design things. However, I don't normally distinguish
> between intentional bad designs and accidental bad designs. Bad design is
> bad design. If anything, accidental bad design is better because at least
> then there's a chance that the developer might be persuaded to fix it.