If I had my way

[Jonathan M Davis]

On Sunday, December 11, 2011 21:50:02 Jesse Phillips wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:08:15 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > Actually my experience is that new users try very early advanced
> > examples all over the map. Some indeed try const. Some others try
> > interfaces with contract. Some others try concurrency. Some others try
> > dimensional analysis. And so on - these examples are drawn only from
> > vague recent memories.
> 
> I guess what gets me on const is that everyone thinks they know how to
> use it. It is one item where it isn't used because we say, "hey D has
> transitive const it is great!" The user is interested in just using D and
> if from C++ are in the habit of putting const everywhere.
> 
> So in essence it is one of the "not being interested as 'I've seen it
> before.'" And then the ultimate response we have to give is, "No, no, D
> is different, it is broken."
> 
> Concurrency, well there isn't a preconception on how D does it. And
> immutable is part of it, and const is part of that.
> 
> Interface contracts was definitely good.
> 
> >> There was a concentration on TDPL bugs before the book came out, lets
> >> bring that back and get them done for 2.058:
> >> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?
> 
> query_format=advanced&short_desc=tdpl&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug
> _status=REOPENED&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr
> >> What do you say team?
> > 
> > We have indeed identified TDPL alignment an important strategic
> > objective. There are more (and more important) bugs than those you
> > linked, but I haven't found the time yet to make a pass through them.
> 
> I just search on bugs with tdpl in the subject (important convention). I
> don't want fixing other bugs to stop, but to have another concentrated
> effort on one thing, for the next week/two might be a good choice.

And if we're going to really try and get the const issues sorted out, Walter 
really should look at Michel Fortin's changes which replace Rebindable.

And we definitely need to sort out what we want to be doing with const-
correctness and object. Kenji did some pull requests related to that, but 
there were some issues, and I'm not quite sure where that all stands at the 
moment. It _is_ a major element in fixing const though.

- Jonathan M Davis