tooling quality and some random rant

[retard]

Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:10:01 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

> On 2/13/11, Alan Smithee <email at example.com> wrote:
>> Andrej Mitrovic Wrote:
>>
>>> Could you elaborate on that? Aren't .di files supposed to be auto-
>> generated by the compiler, and not hand-written?
>>
>> Yea, aren't they? How come no one uses that feature? Perhaps it's
>> intrinsically broken? *hint hint*
>>
>>
>> This NG assumes a curious stance. Sprouting claims and standing by them
>> until they're shown invalid, and then some. This is not the way to go
>> for a new language. It's YOUR job (not yours in particular, Andrej) to
>> demonstrate the feasibility of a certain feature, ONLY THEN can you
>> claim how it may solve any issues. And it needs to be more than a
>> 10-line Hello World. Because you can concatenate Hello World 1,000,000
>> times, D can work for multi million line projects, right?
>>
>> "But it takes time!" ... uh, yea, how's for 11 years? Or at least 4
>> which D has been past the 1.0 version. How many people gave up on their
>> med/large projects and moved to "lesser" languages in this span?
>>
>>
> On 2/13/11, email at example.com <email at example.com> wrote:
>> Andrej Mitrovic Wrote:
>>
>>> Could you elaborate on that? Aren't .di files supposed to be auto-
>> generated by the compiler, and not hand-written?
>>
>> Yea, aren't they? How come no one uses that feature? Perhaps it's
>> intrinsically broken? *hint hint*
>>
>>
>> This NG assumes a curious stance. Sprouting claims and standing by them
>> until they're shown invalid, and then some. This is not the way to go
>> for a new language. It's YOUR job (not yours in particular, Andrej) to
>> demonstrate the feasibility of a certain feature, ONLY THEN can you
>> claim how it may solve any issues. And it needs to be more than a
>> 10-line Hello World. Because you can concatenate Hello World 1,000,000
>> times, D can work for multi million line projects, right?
>>
>> "But it takes time!" ... uh, yea, how's for 11 years? Or at least 4
>> which D has been past the 1.0 version. How many people gave up on their
>> med/large projects and moved to "lesser" languages in this span?
>>
>>
> Heh. :)
> 
> I'm not claiming that I know that everything works, I only know as much
> as I've tried. When I've hit a bug in a multi-thousand line project I'll
> report it to bugzilla.
> 
> So what's broken about generating import modules, is it already in
> bugzilla? I've only heard about problems with templates so far, so I
> don't know. If they're really broken we can push  Walter & Co. to fix
> them.
> 
> I know of a technique, too. I've heard posting a random comment on a D
> reddit thread about a D bug usually gets Andrei to talk with Walter in
> private ASAP and fix it right away.

I wish there were more news about D. This would bring us more reddit 
threads and thus more bug fixes.