religious programming

[Gor Gyolchanyan]

Well, to be honest, I'm just as cynic as you :-)
I agree with everything you said. :-)

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Paulo Pinto <pjmlp at progtools.org> wrote:
> There is some truth in what you say Gor, but I have seen it going
> in a complete direction all the time.
>
> I lost count the amount of Corporate projects I had contact with, which
> were developed multi-site across the globe. With sites being changed in a
> few months, just because some figures in the management Excel did not
> look good.
>
> True, most good developers eventually go away. The few ones that stay
> around, do so due to other factors besides "coding fun".
>
> I have seen too many Corporate projects where the teams literaly do
> body shopping. You don't get the right people for the project, but the
> ones which happen to be somehow available.
>
> With time I have become a bit cynic and now consider that C++, D, Scala
> and so on, are languages for people with brain, while Java, VB.Net and
> others are offshoring/outsourcing languages.
>
>
> Am 11.10.2011 17:58, schrieb Gor Gyolchanyan:
>>
>> The paradox of good developers is: truly irreplaceable developer is
>> one, that can be easily replaced.
>> The better the developer works, the easier it is to get rid of him.
>> But the one you'll replace him with won't work as good and will make
>> code, which is expensive to understand for newbies.
>> So you won't wanna replace him, which makes him irreplaceable.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Paulo Pinto<pjmlp at progtools.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 11.10.2011 13:43, schrieb Kagamin:
>>>>
>>>> Gor Gyolchanyan Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But this is not gonna happen with such religious attitude to
>>>>> programming.
>>>>> They say built-in arrays are useless, because there's always
>>>>> std::vector and std::list.
>>>>> They say, functional programming and lambdas are useless, because you
>>>>> can make functors and base classes for them.
>>>>
>>>> C# is a corporate language and it has no problem with built-in arrays,
>>>> strings, lambdas and delegates, and constantly introduces new features
>>>> like
>>>> linq, generators, covariant templates.
>>>
>>> True, but you will see seldom things like LINQ or generators being used
>>> in
>>> corporate projects with offshoring, unless it is somehow required by
>>> the APIs being used.
>>>
>>> Corporate world likes to think of programmers as replaceable items, and
>>> that
>>> can only be done with simple programming concepts.
>>>
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