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[Kiith-Sa]

Erlang being uncommon doesn't mean it doesn't have awesome 
features.
Java (or COBOL :p) are common, that doesn't mean we should copy 
them
just to make it easier for Java users to move to D.


OT, but this always pisses me off:

I use Vim. On Linux. Vim not being an IDE doesn't mean it doesn't
have autocompletion, or pretty much any common IDE feature (or... 
many that no IDE in existence has, for that matter). You just have
to build your own environment with plugins. I understand most 
people
might not want to spend time to do that, but there are quite
a few that do - and I wouldn't use anything else now, hobby or 
job.

(BTW, I originally used NetBeans, Eclipse, Code::Blocks on 
Windows - I know VS is significantly better, but nothing can tear 
me off
the pure productivity of my buttonless screen displaying 10 files
at once)

Oh, and don't use Vi for development (I don't know anyone who 
does,
anyway - for basic text editing when there's nothing else, yes, 
but for development?).

That said, there's no intelligent autocompletion for D in Vim 
(there is for C/C++, Java, Python...).
I for one would like to have it. But this is not responsibility of
DMD devs - DMD will never turn into Clang.

I hope if anyone works on a project like this, they do it as a 
library
so not only VisualD or DDT or whatever will benefit.


On Saturday, 21 January 2012 at 18:35:40 UTC, Manu wrote:
> On 21 January 2012 18:09, Sean Kelly <sean at invisibleduck.org> 
> wrote:
>
>> I suggest checking out Erlang messaging, as it's the basis for 
>> this
>> design. Maybe then things will be a bit clearer.
>
>
> Are you suggesting that erlang is a common language that all 
> programmers
> worth their paycheques are familiar with... and would also find 
> intuitive?
> I don't know if it's the most sensible API decision to model a 
> design off
> something so obscure, unless you suspect that D should appeal 
> primary to
> ex-erlang users?
>
> Just to re-iterate, I'm not arguing against the API or it's 
> merits, it's
> really cool, just that it shouldn't be the trivial one named 
> receive().
> That name should be reserved for the most conventional API.
>
> Seriously?  I usually turn that feature off if I use an IDE 
> that has it.
>> Large projects aren't an issue. I've worked on some counted in 
>> millions of
>> lines of code.
>>
>
> Why even argue this? What's the point in intentionally making D 
> unappealing
> to anyone who works in a non-linux professional environment? Do 
> you aim to
> alienate those users from the community; keep the community 
> nice and
> small...
> I honestly don't understand how so many people around here can 
> blindly
> consider windows users, and 'IDE users' in general, a niche or 
> minority
> user base, and also, what the value of presenting this argument 
> might
> actually be?
>
> Who are the majority of professional devs here? What industry 
> do they work
> in? Do they, or do they intend to use D in their professional 
> work? What
> language are they coming from/using normally in their work? Do 
> they
> *really*use vi in the office?
> Is there a poll, or some statistics of this sort? I'd be very 
> curious...
> because this argument comes up every other day.