IOC is inside Clang-head

Paulo Pinto pjmlp at progtools.org
Wed Jan 30 01:02:47 PST 2013


On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 at 09:01:53 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 January 2013 at 21:26:11 UTC, Walter Bright 
> wrote:
>> On 1/29/2013 1:15 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 29 January 2013 at 19:21:34 UTC, Walter Bright 
>>> wrote:
>>>> One real issue is order of evaluation bugs, but I didn't see 
>>>> a note about that
>>>> in the Clang list.
>>>
>>> Why would you need runtime checking for that?
>>
>> I didn't say you did!
>>
>>
>>> Besides the AddressSanatizer and MemorySanatizer features 
>>> which are obviously
>>> real-world oriented (cf. Valgrind), I also find quite a few 
>>> of the ubsan
>>> features to be actually useful in practice - integer overflow 
>>> detection is only
>>> a small part of it.
>>
>> valgrind is immensely useful for C, but a lot less so for D as 
>> D guarantees initialization and a GC takes care of much of the 
>> rest.
>
> Many have jokes about Java being a language that requires an 
> IDE to be usable.
>
> Usually I joke that C is a language for tool vendors. How many 
> vendors can take their business to C undefined behaviors and 
> pointer abuse.
>
> No one on their senses does use C today without an endless list 
> of tools that validate their code is not going to explode.
>
> --
> Paulo

s/take/thank


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