Had another 48hr game jam this weekend...

[Nick Sabalausky]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 23:20:37 +1000
Manu <turkeyman at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1 September 2013 17:46, Nick Sabalausky <
> SeeWebsiteToContactMe at semitwist.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 06:45:48 +0200
> > "Kapps" <opantm2+spam at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 02:05:51 UTC, Manu wrote:
> > > > One more thing:
> > > > I'll just pick one language complaint from the weekend.
> > > > It is how quickly classes became disorganised and difficult to
> > > > navigate
> > > > (like Java and C#).
> > > > We all wanted to ability to define class member functions
> > > > outside the class
> > > > definition:
> > > >   class MyClass
> > > >   {
> > > >     void method();
> > > >   }
> > > >
> > > >   void MyClass.method()
> > > >   {
> > > >     //...
> > > >   }
> > > >
> > > > It definitely cost us time simply trying to understand the
> > > > class layout
> > > > visually (ie, when IDE support is barely available).
> > > > You don't need to see the function bodies in the class
> > > > definition, you want
> > > > to quickly see what a class has and does.
> > >
> > > This isn't something I've found to be an issue personally, but I
> > > suppose it's a matter of what you're used to. Since I'm used to
> > > C#, I haven't had problems with this. I've always felt that this
> > > was the IDE's job, personally. That being said, perhaps .di files
> > > could help with this?
> >
> > I see it as the job of doc generators.
> >
> 
> Why complicate the issue? What's wrong with readable code?
> 

I spent several years using C/C++ exclusively (and was happy with it
at the time) and I still don't understand what's "readable" about having
a class's members separate from the class itself. It's also a non-DRY
maintenance PITA and one of the biggest reasons I left C/C++.

I don't like complicating things, and I like readable code. That's
why I find C++-style class definitions intolerable.

And what's so complicated about tossing in those two little characters:
-D