End user experience with D

[Ramon]

On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 23:22:30 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 22:21:10 UTC, Ramon wrote:
>> Finally and possibly most importantly, basically not having 
>> fully working  debugger support is a very serious lack.
>
> Maybe it is because I write 100% bug free code the first time 
> every time ( :-) ) but I've found the gdb support, at least on 
> Linux, to be really pretty good.
>
> I compile with -gc -debug - the "pretend to be C" option is 
> something I started doing years ago and might not be necessary 
> anymore, but I've found it to be plenty good enough anyway.
>
>> D's bias toward Windows doesn't help either.
>
> If anything, I don't think D goes far enough in its Windows 
> support. It works well there, sure, even the optlink things 
> others complain about don't bother me, but there's a lot of 
> stuff it could easily do and doesn't, at least not without 
> grabbing additional downloads.
>
> On Linux, dmd works quite excellently, as do gdc and ldc.

-gc? Hmmm ... I'll try that. Thanks for the tip ;)

For the rest: Frankly, I'm not even sure, I should follow that 
kind of discussion (like in Manu's thread) anymore. I don't mean 
to offend someone but it strikes me as ... uhm ... brains not 
used at their full power ... when "there is no really properly 
and fully working IDE" (which is pretty close to a killer for 
many) gt thrown in - and seriously - discussed with stuff like 
"nenene, in Windows Visual Blah 2010 it worked and now 
Intellisense works only with handish settings, nenene".
Even worse, while I'm still hoping for a promising statement by a 
heavy-weight like e.g. W. Bright along the line "Yep, we really, 
seriously need some working cross platform IDE, preferably an 
easy to install one" ... one seems quite happy to seriously 
adress nitty-bitties for Windows Whatever 2012 (c) (tm) $$$.

Maybe perfection must be three, the catholic way, a triplet. 
Maybe we need another incarnation of Andrei A. (who brought great 
stuff to D) but this third guy bringing good useabilty to D.