Had another 48hr game jam this weekend...

[Nick Sabalausky]

On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 02:57:45 +1000
Manu <turkeyman at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3 September 2013 12:34, Nick Sabalausky <
> SeeWebsiteToContactMe at semitwist.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:18:03 +1000
> > Manu <turkeyman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think I've repeated myself 3 or 4 times here, but one more time
> > > for good measure...
> > >
> > > Requiring IDE assistance to make code _readable_ seems completely
> > > fail to me.
> > > 1) You're not always reading code in your IDE, often in commit
> > > logs, diff windows, emails, chat clients.
> > > 2) With so much hate for IDE support, it seems like a massive
> > > contradiction to say that an IDE should be required to make code
> > > readable.
> > >
> > > Reading code is the most fundamental task in programming. Anything
> > > that gets in the way of code readability is an epic fail.
> > >
> >
> > First of all, not everybody agrees that separating out function
> > definitions makes code easier to read rather than harder.
> >
> > Also, maintainability is just as important as readability, and "poor
> > maintainability" is a very big and very common objection to C++'s
> > separation of member function definitions from class definitions.
> > You're essentially writing and maintaining full documentation
> > completely by hand and a lot of people feel very bogged down by the
> > extreme non-DRYness of that very quickly, especially when there are
> > already so many other ways to get the same information without
> > maintaining it manually: Automatic Doc generators, high-level IDE
> > class browsing, and code folding (and code folding is *not* an IDE
> > thing, but an extremely common code editor thing).
> >
> 
> So then don't write your code that way. I didn't tell you how to
> write your code.
> I just said I hate inline function definitions, and so do all my
> colleagues. It demonstrably slowed us down, and it's annoying.
> 

I'm not trying to tell you to code any particular way either, I'm just
explaining why there's so much ambivalence and distaste for the idea.
It may very well work for you, but there's also many people who find it
to be a demonstrable slowdown.