Thanks to p0nce for a nicer DConf logo!

bachmeier via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d at puremagic.com
Mon Jan 19 14:21:38 PST 2015


On Monday, 19 January 2015 at 22:02:37 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
> On 1/19/15 4:43 PM, ponce wrote:
>> On Monday, 19 January 2015 at 16:30:14 UTC, Russel Winder via
>> Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 15:31 +0000, ponce via Digitalmars-d 
>>> wrote:
>>> […]
>>>>
>>>> Dunno, maybe an US person would tell if "Utah" would be 
>>>> preferable to
>>>> "UT".
>>>
>>> I guess it depends if you want non USA people to know the 
>>> location. I
>>> appreciate that everyone inside the USA knows all the state 
>>> codes, and
>>> knows that if you do not specify a country, of course it is 
>>> in the USA.
>>> However, for people not in the USA this knowledge is absent – 
>>> though
>>> people in the USA haven't really cottoned on to that yet.
>>>
>>> Basically I think D should be a global thing, not a 
>>> USA-centric one.
>>
>> My view point:
>> - I didn't know what UT meant myself
>> - I didn't know where the city was anyway
>> - it seems customary for Americans to see city names with the 
>> State code
>> - but, being a conference in the US, it is expected more US 
>> people are
>> expected to fill the seats
>> - "Orem, Utah" might feel dumb to americans, dunno
>
> Spelling out the state is not "dumb", it's perfectly 
> legitimate. Almost nobody ever uses this notation, as the state 
> codes are pretty well known.
>
> However, longer state names may be more awkward in a concise 
> badge graphic (Utah doesn't suffer from this).
>
> The thing is, there are several state abbreviations that always 
> confuse people. For instance AL is Alabama, but could be Alaska 
> (AK) and AK might be confused as Arkansas (AR), which may be 
> confused as Arizona (AZ).*
>
> :)
>
> I think bottom line, it's not a slight against any 
> non-Americans to use a US custom in the US, and it's also not 
> that difficult to find out what it really means.
>
> -Steve
>
> * disclaimer: before posting this I felt compelled to look all 
> this up to make sure I got it right :D

Not being a professor of English, this may be out of date, but 
common advice is to use traditional abbreviations rather than 
postal abbreviations unless a zip code follows. For Utah, the 
traditional abbreviation is 'Utah'.


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