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[weaselcat via Digitalmars-d]

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 05:45:56 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 05:37:39 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
>> On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 05:20:27 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>>> On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 05:14:59 UTC, Manu wrote:
>>>> On 1 June 2015 at 14:05, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
>>>> <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 03:38:44 UTC, Manu wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 June 2015 at 10:56, ketmar via Digitalmars-d
>>>>>> <digitalmars-d at puremagic.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:08:27 +0000, Joakim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most mobile games are written in C/C++/OpenGL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that will fade away soon. it's safe to ignore that in 
>>>>>>> long-time plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How so? Game dev's aren't moving away from native code any 
>>>>>> time soon...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a large portion of ios, android, and steam games use unity, 
>>>>> which outside of
>>>>> the core engine uses mono for programming.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, yeah, but Unity itself is all C code. Every modern game 
>>>> has a
>>>> scripting solution, just that Unity has made that interface
>>>> front-and-center. Lots of meaty Unity plugins are native too.
>>>
>>> Since last Unity version, C# is also compiled to native code 
>>> via IL2CPP.
>>
>> Only because of mono's license update, it's why they've been 
>> using a nearly decade old mono for so long.
>
> No, only because they are too cheap to pay for the work of 
> Xamarin.
>
> I doubt that the amount of money wasted in Danish salaries for 
> writing a .NET native compiler is cheaper than paying for the 
> licenses.
AFAIK It's heavily based off of mono 2.0 code, it actually 
directly links against a lot of mono libraries to supply the 
CLR(or did, anyways.)
>
> However riding the fame wave is easy to forget how unknown they 
> were before they firstly added Mono to their JavaScript and Boo 
> offerings, followed by porting the engine to Windows.
Boo requires mono ;)
>
> So I don't really get why Xamarin gets the blame and Unity is 
> portraid as the good guys.
>
> For me they are just a company that got lucky using open source 
> and now doesn't want to pay back.
>
> Xamarin is doing great without their money.

I wasn't blaming Xamarin, unity owes a lot of their success to 
them - mono helped them greatly reduce the barriers of indie 
gamedev.