The DIP Process

Walter Bright newshound2 at digitalmars.com
Mon Mar 4 06:41:36 UTC 2019


On 3/3/2019 8:29 AM, Jonathan Marler wrote:
> Thanks for taking the time to respond to this one. I'm putting up a wiki:
> 
> https://wiki.dlang.org/?title=Guidelines_for_Professional_Conduct

Please don't. We're about D, we're not about being any sort of authority on 
manners. I particularly don't want to codify things in a way that becomes 
something written in a lawyerly fashion for people looking to conform to the 
letter yet violate the spirit.

I suggest anyone looking for an authority on it to pick out one of the "Emily 
Post" books on Amazon.


> TFor example, "impugning the motives of others".  In simple 
> terms I understand this to mean "accusing someone of having sinister motives".  
> In my mind, if someone is behaving in a way that appears to be caused by 
> sinister motives, wouldn't you want to point that out and ask them about it?

No. It is extremely rude to do so, and in every case I know of the accuser was 
wrong about it.


>> 3. believing one's argument is so compelling that others must have been 
>> secretly convinced, and are continuing to disagree out of dishonesty, 
>> cussedness or attempts to save face
> 
> This one is confusing to me.  It doesn't appear to be a guideline for 
> professional conduct, more like a guideline to life and how to view other 
> people.

The two are the same.


> It sounds like you're saying we should assume that people are always 
> "open minded" and that they never let pride get in the way of things.  Is this 
> correct or did I misunderstand?

It's a misunderstanding. It's not about the Bob continuing to disagree, it's
about Fred asserting that Bob couldn't honestly disagree, that Bob must be 
trying to save face.

I've seen (3) many times in this forum, and don't care to see it again. No, I'm 
not going to identify particular instances.

I'm reminded of something a lawyer told me long ago:

1. When the law is on your side, argue the law.
2. When justice is on your side, argue for justice.
3. When neither the law nor justice is on your side, engage in character 
assassination.


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