Isn't `each` too much of a good thing?

Andrei Alexandrescu SeeWebsiteForEmail at erdani.com
Tue Sep 22 19:31:38 UTC 2020


On 9/18/20 2:24 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:02:17PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On 9/18/20 11:02 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:40:08AM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> At DConf 2019 I discussed a new version of std separately with a
>>>> handful of folks. Two things that all discussions had in common:
> [...]
>>> So where do we go from here?  What about we make itemized lists of
>>> the wildly different views and see if we can find some common ground
>>> that we can build on?
>>
>> A strong leader needs to emerge. A vague list-driven community effort
>> is doomed to shuffle the rubble once again with a 2% increase in
>> overall quality of the library.
>>
>> A good leader would have a powerful overall vision and at least one
>> big specific idea.
> 
> So who will this person be?
> 
> If there are no candidates, then I'm just going to bow out, since it
> will just be another vacuous hypothetical discussion that leads to no
> action and no change.
> 
> <offtopic>
> Perhaps this is the underlying problem with D and its community.  We're
> all looking for revolutionary change, neglecting that sometimes progress
> is made incrementally.  If we reject the incremental while waiting for
> the revolutionary that never arrives, that's just letting the perfect
> become the enemy of the good.  This would explain a lot of our problems.
> Like revolutionary features that are not quite finished, features that
> have gaping holes for years, and the like.  We have an awesome language
> that has huge potential, but it's being let down by rough edges and lack
> of polish, because good is not good enough for us, and the perfect
> hasn't arrived yet, and nobody knows when (or if) it will.
> </offtopic>

Fair point, and I wanted to write a related post as well. Just FWIW, 
Walter and Steve Schveighoffer are discussing how to version phobos 
appropriately. That is important work that qualifies as incremental.


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