Plan for D

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On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 22:11:23 UTC, SealabJaster wrote:
> On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 22:02:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grostad 
> wrote:
>> On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 18:24:11 UTC, dogman wrote:
>>> community is let D be good at both. With a switch of GC=off, 
>>> people should be able to use manual memory management and 
>>> also able to use stdlib and lot of libraries. Not sure if its 
>>> technically possible. Most people will use D with GC on. I 
>>> know we can turn off GC and mix manual memory management.
>>
>> It takes discipline to mix. Libraries would need to:
>> 1. Be written for RC, transition to GC becomes free.
>> 2. Written for finalizers, getting basic cleanup
>> 3. Test for various mixes of RC/GC... How?
>> But you also need a fully precise GC to get proper 
>> finalzation...
>> ...
>> With no common ground, nothing will move...
>
> This is what I was going on about in terms of "We want to be 
> everything yet end up as nothing" and "We expect everything to 
> be perfect in every possible use case, but ends up in 
> impossible situations where nothing happens since no one will 
> compromise".
>
> Ultimately the fate of this thread is that everything posted 
> here will just turn to dust overtime, as no one with the power 
> to move things forward will even take things into consideration.

You do have power, but like anything that involves other people 
if you have a valid idea for where D should go you need to 
convince others first. But while trying to do that remember, 
those others will have to do the actual work to implement and 
maintain whatever it is you want. So bitching for your pet 
features is nothing without putting in the work to either a) 
convince others it is worth doing and where possible b) doing the 
work, either implementation, writing a DIP etc.

So everyone here has power to do something, just most can't be 
bothered once the work kicks in. If you have written several 
books or a compiler or contributed PRs and proven your skills 
then your power will grow, i.e. you ability to influence the core 
D devs.