D tooling is disappointing

monkyyy crazymonkyyy at gmail.com
Wed Aug 17 19:17:40 UTC 2022


On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 18:07:25 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 10:45:16 UTC, tastyminerals 
> wrote:
>> _This is a longer than average post where I mostly express 
>> personal concerns about things that you probably heard 100 of 
>> times..._
>
> One problem is that this type of post is too vague. Saying the 
> tooling is "disappointing" is the equivalent of saying you 
> think the compiler should be improved. What you say might well 
> be true, but it's hard to know exactly what you are saying.
>
> The first step to improvement is being clear about what the 
> tooling should do. Then, importantly, reference tooling that 
> works for other languages and provide explicit information 
> about how to do that for D. Really, it doesn't help to talk 
> about "tooling". To push for change, you should pick the small 
> part of the tooling that is causing you the biggest headaches 
> and provide clear steps for improving that.

> say what spefically is bad
But when I spefically call dub bad people get squeamish; and like 
all the projects are volunteer based and poeple defend such 
things naturally. It would just be hard to be spefic for most 
people who are conflict avoident



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