Civility

[Ola Fosheim Grøstad]

On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 12:56:37 UTC, mee6 wrote:
> D has a worse GC than java, that's a fact. You can do manual 
> memory management in D, even though it isn't really supported 
> by its own feature set. Using something like C++ and Java 
> together is the better option as it provides the best of both 
> worlds. Like what Android did. D went a direction that provides 
> a worse GC without providing the tools needed for the 
> alternative it claims to support.

IIRC Atila Neves has expressed some positivity towards having 
some kind of actor model with local GC per actor in the forums. 
That in combination with ARC for shared objects could be an 
interesting direction.

Applications have to be given control over scheduling though, and 
actors should be written to have short life times so that you can 
bypass garbage collection as long as you have low memory usage. 
(The GC heap then becomes an area-collector in practice, so 
everything is freed wholesale when the actor dies.).

LLVM also makes it possible to do 100% precise collection, but 
the current blocker is the C union. It would also help to ban 
destructors on GC-allocated objects.

So the main issue isn't that there are no options, but that there 
are no signs of future movement towards something better beyond 
those very sparse positive bleeps from Atila.