Does D have any political goals?

[thebluepandabear]

On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 16:37:47 UTC, Luna wrote:
> On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 05:30:20 UTC, thebluepandabear 
> wrote:
>> (If this message is off-topic/disallowed I apologize dearly, 
>> and please feel free to remove this post if this is the case.)
>>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> I have been programming for a couple of years in various 
>> different languages. A couple of weeks ago I decided that I 
>> would like to learn a new language, so I went ahead and began 
>> learning Rust.
>>
>> Immediately I realized how toxic, egostic, and rude the Rust 
>> community was, and this made me very uncomfortable as when I 
>> learn new languages I often love to be a part of the community 
>> and interact with fellow programmers.
>>
>> After that, I began to learn about all of the social 
>> justice/political statements that Rust was putting out over 
>> the last couple of years in regards to topics unrelated to 
>> programming, this made me feel very uncomfortable -- not 
>> necessarily because I disagreed with what they were saying (in 
>> fact I agreed with most statements), but mostly because I felt 
>> like  politics shouldn't be involved in a programming language.
>>
>> Eventually I gave up on Rust, I simply couldn't ignore these 
>> two issues that I had with the community and the core team. 
>> Rust had the right to make political statements, but I had the 
>> right not to use a language if that was the case.
>>
>> For the next couple of days I was trying very hard to find an 
>> apolitical language to learn instead of Rust, and I stumbled 
>> across D. D seemed like a good language to learn and I saw 
>> that the community was EXTREMELY nice, although I am not sure 
>> whether D is an apolitical language (or whether they have been 
>> involved politically).
>>
>> I am just here asking whether or not D will keep politics out 
>> of programming, et cetera, and look -- if D is political then 
>> I have absolutely no issue, in fact I respect this decision 
>> completely. It's just that when politics gets involved in 
>> programming it puts me off instantly, so that's why I asked.
>>
>> Answers would be appreciated :D
>>
>> Regards,
>> thebluepandabear
>
> Rust is "political" to keep it's community safe and welcoming. 
> There are transgender people (including me), people of color 
> and other minorities using DLang. Not to mention it's a bad 
> look for companies to be funding projects that end up becoming 
> cesspits of bigotry and sexism which I have experienced in 
> other programming communities and this one, in the past. So I 
> do highly recommend the wider D community to actually have a 
> think about what kind of community it wants to foster.
>
> A non exhaustive list of what I've experienced in the D 
> community since I started using it in ~2016: unwelcome sexual 
> advances, multiple cases of sexism, transphobic remarks, 
> homophobic remarks and general bigotry.
>
> DLang has a ways to go as evident by this thread, it's gotten 
> better since 2016, but the community still has a maturity 
> problem. And as said earlier, a lack of a real selling point 
> other than being everything including the kitchen sink (except 
> parts of it are half implemented and are just bit rotting while 
> Walter talks about deprecating actually useful features like 
> binary literals)
>
> This community's insistence of being "apolitical" (which it 
> isn't) is making it very hard to get anyone to try D, most 
> people I've shown the language have been very much put off by 
> the lenient moderation going on in the community. I really hope 
> this community doesn't turn back in to a garbage sausage fest.
>
> Deciding that you want to be "apolitical" and "only talk about 
> code", way more often than not means that you don't want 
> minorities and/or women around.
>
> I don't use DLang because of its community and leadership, I 
> use DLang despite it.

What you have said is wrong on so many levels.

Your community is an extremist echo chamber, that is all I will 
say.

And Rust encouraging users to donate to BLM is a political 
statement whether you like it or not.