D is our last hope

[GrimMaple]

On Monday, 11 December 2023 at 07:18:44 UTC, Dukc wrote:
> That D treats those two domains equally is supposed to be its 
> unique selling point that no mainstream language does. I still 
> fail to see why so many people pick D and then advocate for 
> killing that fundamental feature. Aren't you excited about the 
> thought that you can use one language to excel in both domains?
>

Actually, having written D full time for over 2 years now (I 
chose D for my indie game stuff), I don't really see D excelling 
in pretty much anything. The only stuff where I'd barely consider 
using D now is its `betterC` stuff where it at least does as 
advertised, and even then getting C dependencies is problematic 
enough that I'd rather just use C in the first place. High level 
stuff though... Yeah, D goes straight into the bin. C# gets me 
where I need to be faster, even though the actual code writing is 
slightly slower. D has the potential to match it, but it all 
boils down to the lack of sane 3rd party libraries. Dub is a 
graveyard at this point. And when you have to reinvent the wheel 
all the time, it wears you down very quickly.

> Consider the two probably biggest companies using D. Symmetry 
> investments used D for high level purposes. Weka.io on the 
> other hand vendors a file system, which is a systems langauge 
> job. If we were to declare either domain a second class 
> citizen, we have to anger one of those companies.

I would've definitely rephrased that to `Consider the two 
probably **only** companies using D`. I'm sorry, but this point 
is laughable, considering how many companies **ditched** D in 
comparison. Yeah, those two (and some more) are using D. But how 
many have moved on? Take a look at "D Success Stories" page, you 
will find that most of the corps listed there stopped using D a 
while back.