Feedback from the Gripes and Wishes Campaign

FeepingCreature feepingcreature at gmail.com
Thu May 18 13:18:13 UTC 2023


On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 12:30:43 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> I've finally compiled all of the feedback from the Gripes and 
> Wishes campaign into a single document for your perusal. Thanks 
> to everyone who sent something to me. If you did send feedback 
> and don't see it here, please let me know.
>
> https://github.com/dlang/vision-document/blob/main/gripes-wishes-feedback.md
>
> A few notes:
>
> * I've excluded Bugzilla issues that have since been closed
> * I've tried to include examples and suggestions that were 
> provided along with the points, but I have cut out some bits 
> that were irrelevant or extraneous.
> * I've not included compliments. I wanted to focus only on 
> things we need to fix/change. But the compliments were received 
> and much appreciated.
> * There were three pieces that I decided not to breakdown into 
> actionable items and included in longform instead. Those are at 
> the bottom of the document.
> * I'll probably update this list after our planning meeting 
> tomorrow.
>
> So, the next steps related to this. Generally, we need to:
>
> * establish some high-level goals
> * go through this list to see what fits with those goals, what 
> doesn't fit now but could be done later, and what is unlikely 
> to ever fit any goals
> * discuss additional ideas from our own wish lists (and I'll 
> update the document with those once I have them all)
> * prioritize everything we've decided fits our current goals
> * publish categorized task lists
> * work out who among us is responsible for what
> * get things done
>
> That last one is the hard part. I'll have more to say about it 
> when the time comes.

"Ah yes, this is one of mine, this is one of mine, this is one of 
mine where I made a typo... God damn it."

Big list! What's interesting to me is the entries that I would 
straight up disagree with, like removing contracts. Brings to 
mind the common claim that D is too big, it has too many features 
that nobody use, we could totally remove these ten features 
without anybody complaining ... followed by a list that is 
different for everyone. :)


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