[Greylist-users] relay identification

Tom Haapanen tomh at motorsport.com
Tue Jan 6 20:54:41 PST 2004


I'm using a an eight-minute delay, and that seems to catch more than 95% 
of the spam, based on three days of data so far.  For me, at least, 
increasing the delay to 58 minutes would significantly decrease user 
satisfaction with only a minimal gain in spam deterrence.

mysql> select count(*), sum(passed_count), sum(blocked_count), 
sum(aborted_count) from relaytofrom;    
+----------+-------------------+--------------------+--------------------+
| count(*) | sum(passed_count) | sum(blocked_count) | sum(aborted_count) |
+----------+-------------------+--------------------+--------------------+
|    16303 |              2053 |              16798 |                200 |
+----------+-------------------+--------------------+--------------------+
1 row in set (0.20 sec)

mysql>

Tom


On 2004-01-06 18:58, Tim Freeman wrote:

>From: Allan E Johannesen <aej at wpi.edu>
>  
>
>>Prior greylist negotiations appear to mean that that IP runs an SMTP mechanism
>>which will retry until success occurs.  Yes, it might still be spam, but I
>>don't think greylist will do anything to it but delay it for an hour.  It's
>>still going to hit unless the place gets blacklisted.
>>    
>>
>
>The one hour delay might give spamtrap RBL's like cbl.abuseat.org a
>chance to blacklist the spammer.
>
>  
>
>>Well, to try to avoid hysteria about delayed email.  We appear to have some
>>cases of that.
>>    
>>
>
>I was thinking about reducing the delay from the default 58 minutes to
>5 minutes to decrease the incidence of that problem (well, I'm my only
>user, so there's no hysteria, but you know what I mean).  Then I
>thought of the greylist delay & RBL blacklist scenario I mention above
>and went back to 58 minutes.
>
>But this does raise the question -- in the absence of an RBL, does
>anyone have reason to believe that spammers in practice get through a
>5 minute greylist delay who won't get through a 58 minute greylist
>delay?  If not, then the only benefit of 58 minutes over 5 minutes is
>for the people who do an RBL first.
>
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